Interview with EC&BB, and review of Painted From Memory CNN Interactive, 1998-10-08 Transcript from CNN Newsstand Entertainment Weekly UPN Under Fire; Antz: the Real Story; Burt & Elvis Aired October 8, 1998 - 10:00 p.m. ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) WILLOW BAY, CO-HOST (voice-over): UPN under fire. A new sitcom that pokes fun at slavery. * * * JUDD ROSE, CO-HOST (voice-over): Talk about an odd couple. Burt Bacharach, musician from time's past. And the king of punk rock, Elvis Costello. ELVIS COSTELLO, MUSICIAN: I did think it was little vansful (ph) that he would want to work with me. ROSE: An unlikely pair teaming up to make beautiful music together. * * * ANNOUNCER: * * * But next, Elvis is back, Costello that is. And he is teaming up with Burt Bacharach. We'll sit in on a session, and review their new release, when CNN & ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY returns. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) ROSE: When we think of the music of the late '60s and early '70s, we tend to think of the Beatles and the Stones or even the early days of disco. But think again, about a group of pop songs from that time, lush, romantic tunes with irresistible melodies and words we remember to this day. Now, the man who composed all of that memorable music has returned, and in a most unusual way. Join us now as we show you how "Mr. Mellow" got in tune, this time, with an angry young man. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DIONNE WARWICK, SINGER (singing): My foolish pride; that's all that I have left. Left behind. The tears and the sadness you gave me, when you said good-bye. You said good-bye. So walk on by. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE (voice-over): He's made Dionne divine, and Wynonna a winner. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WYNONNA JUDD, (singer): Anyone who had a heart would take you in his arms and love me, too. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: He's made Tom terrific. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM JONES, SINGER (singing): What's new pussycat? Wow, wow, wow. What you get, pussycat? Wow, wow, wow. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: And he's made Stevie wonderful. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVIE WONDER, MUSICIAN (singing): Well you came and opened me and now there's so much more I see. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: How does he do it? BURT BACHARACH, COMPOSER: I've got this little guy. I keep him in the closet, I shovel food underneath and he writes the music. But don't tell anybody. Nobody knows this. ROSE: OK, it's our little secret. OK, but it's no secret that now, at 70, Burt Bacharach is back. After composing 41 Top 20 hits, most in the '60s and '70s, he and his songs seemed to fade away. He re-emerged briefly in the '80s, with his AIDS anthem. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GLADYS KNIGHT, SINGER (singing): That's what friends are for. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: Then, two years ago, he was rediscovered by Hollywood. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "My Best Friend's Wedding," From Tri-Star Pictures) UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR (singing): I run for the bus, dear. Well, why didn't I think of us, dear? CHORUS: I say a little prayer for you. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: "My Best Friend's Wedding" got the revival rolling, followed quickly by an affectionate spoof in the hit comedy, "Austin Powers." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "Austin Powers") MIKE MYERS, ACTOR: Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Burt Bacharach. BACHARACH (singing): What the world needs now is love sweet love. (END VIDEO CLIP) BACHARACH: Hey, wouldn't you do that? Just do it alone to see the reaction of people on the street in Las Vegas. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "Austin Powers") BACHARACH (singing): Is love sweet love. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: Well, what was the reaction? BACHARACH: They looked like s---t, what is going on here? ROSE: At a tribute concert last April, a new generation of singers embraced his golden oldies. Sheryl Crow. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SHERYL CROW, SINGER (singing): I don't know how in the world to stop thinking of him. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: Chrissie Hynde. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISSIE HYNDE, SINGER (singing): I sent a message to Michael, message to Michael. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: And then, the singer who had so often taken Bacharach's songs and made them her own. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WARWICK: Forever and ever -- Forever and ever and ever, I love you. ROSE: That's just one of eight Top Ten songs Bacharach and lyricist Hal David wrote for Dionne Warwick. WARWICK: It was fabulous that people are, again, listening to some great music that Burt is responsible for, with some wonderful words that Hal wrote. And I just, I'm a lucky young lady to have been the exponent of all of that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (singing): I'll say a little prayer for you. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: You became, in the '60s and '70s, a certain example of what's cool. And you know what, you're still cool. BACHARACH: Thank you. Well, I think at that time, too, I was married to a beautiful, beautiful woman, Angie Dickinson. We were a good-looking couple. ROSE: Yes. BACHARACH: She was hot. I was hot. And, we had a good time. ROSE: And you were hot. Now, you're cool. One of the reasons why is his new partner; in song, that is. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COSTELLO (singing): This house is empty now. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: Yes, the "King of Pop" has teamed up with the "Prince of Punk," Elvis Costello. Well, they are an odd pair: Burt with his lush melodies. BACHARACH (singing): People should get together. ROSE: And Elvis with his raw, post-punk style. Two years ago, having never met, they were asked to create a song for the film, "Grace of My Heart." Working totally by fax and phone, they composed, "God Give me Strength." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, From Worldwide Pants) COSTELLO (singing): So God give me strength. (END VIDEO CLIP) COSTELLO: I got nominated for a Grammy, which was great, you know? And we got along, you know? I got to say that I was nominated in a category alongside Frank Sinatra, Luciano Pavarotti, and Nat Cole, and Natalie Cole. So that's pretty great. I think we can be excused for not winning on that account. ROSE: But it was a winning combination. Bacharach saw some of himself in Costello. BACHARACH: I'd guarantee, Judd, that I could call Elvis up at three, four in the morning, when I'm on my second wakeup, you know, with the jukebox in my head, spinning around, and he'll be up. He'll be going through the same process as me. Right to the last pimple on the face of the record that nobody's going to see, except me and Elvis. ROSE: And the angry young was a life-long fan. COSTELLO: Burt, his songs were all over the radio when I was growing up, and they really stuck out as very elegant, and speaking of something. When you're very young, you don't always understand what, you know, what they might be saying to you, because they were grown up, but not in the sense of being off-limits for younger people to listen to. ROSE: So well did opposites attract that it ended up here, in an L.A. studio, where they recorded a new record called "Painted From Memory." Working in person this time, Burt, who usually writes the music alone, shared that job with Elvis. BACHARACH: You see, he's got a very, very wide range of musical taste, musical appreciation. And what this is about is not whether it's a C -- just like a C chord like this, or whether it's going to be a Major 7th. It's still about taste, about melody, about passion, about the statement of this album. It's a very strong statement about relationships and love. ROSE: Eleven new songs, backed by a 24-piece orchestra. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BACHARACH & COSTELLO (singing): Can we still be friends, baby? (END VIDEO CLIP) ROSE: What can you tell us about the new one? BACHARACH: It's good. COSTELLO: Really. It's really good. I think we should say that right off. ROSE: But if you still long for Burt's vintage stuff, next month, Rhino Records will release a three-CD set, featuring 75 of them, from the sublime to the silly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WARWICK (singing): Well now, I got lots of friends in San Jose. Yeah, I do. (END VIDEO CLIP) WARWICK: "Do You Know the Way to San Jose," as a matter of fact, is a song that I did not want to record. And I just couldn't make any rhyme or reason or sense out of wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WARWICK (singing): Wo, wo, wo, wo, wo... (END VIDEO CLIP) WARWICK: And I had never been to San Jose. I finally found it, and it happens to be a very pretty little place, too. ROSE: And what of Burt Bacharach himself. What, from his amazing catalogue is his personal favorite? BACHARACH: Definitely, you'd have to put "Alfie" in there. ROSE: Could we coerce you into plunking out a few keys of "Alfie" there? BACHARACH: Well, I don't know the song. Sure, I can do that, Judd. (singing): What's it all about, Alfie. Is it just for -- What's it all about when you sort it out, Alfie. Are we meant to take more than we give. (on camera): I am so gratified with what I've written, and the acceptance, and the way it turned, I can't ever say, "I could've, I should've" -- forget it. (singing): And you'll find love any day, Alfie. Alfie. ROSE: Burt and Elvis will be performing live next week at Radio City Music Hall, here in New York, and then Washington D.C., and L.A. And if their new record sells well, a longer tour could be in the works. Now that, of course, could depend on what the critics say about the new album. So, on that note, here's "EW's" David Browne, with his review of "Painted From Memory." (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DAVID BROWNE, "ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY" CRITIC: I'll be the first to admit it. When I heard that Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach were making an album together, my first reaction was to run for my Hanson records. Sure, both of these guys are unique talents, and they both had long stretches of uninterrupted creativity, but I can't remember the last time I played one of their new pieces of music all the way through. But here's a pleasant surprise. Their first joint album "Painted From Memory" actually makes you believe in miracles, at least once in a while. Maybe it was Bacharach inspiration, but this time Costello's actually written a bunch of pretty straightforward romantic heart break lyrics. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COSTELLO (singing): God give me strength. (END VIDEO CLIP) BROWN: And the combination of Costello's lyrics and Bacharach's elegant music has resulted in a handful of real gems: songs like "Toledo," and "I Still Have That Other Girl." That said, the album is still a bumpy ride. So, at times "Painted From Memory" kind of feels like a soggy cereal. But when it works, "Painted From Memory" is a truly old-fashioned pop record in the best sense of the word. It recalls a time when Top 40 songwriters reached for the sky and often grabbed it. I still wish Dionne Warwick had sung some of these songs, so I'll give it a B-plus. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COSTELLO (singing): I might as well. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) (END VIDEOTAPE) ANNOUNCER: Coming up: (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One by one, hurrah. Hurrah. (END VIDEO CLIP) ANNOUNCER: Hold your antennas. Woody Allen and Sharon Stone lead a convoy of ants. But we wanted to know: Do the animated insects really have what it takes? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED CHARACTER: I've never seen an ant dance. Not a line dance, not a square dance. (END VIDEO CLIP) * * * ANNOUNCER: When CNN & ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY returns. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) ROSE: Welcome back to CNN & ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY. We've got a lot more for you in this half-hour, including a look into the new animated hit from DreamWorks; it's called "Antz." Now, do ants really dance? BAY: Yes, I'm sure they must. ROSE: Well, I think they only do it to Beatles music. BAY: No, I think they know all the words to "Do You Know The Way To San Jose?" * * *